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    Hi Tye, thanks for the pics. As Takahiro San has mentioned your Kat is fitted with a pipe swing arm and officially only the 25 SXZ sent to Sud Effrica had the pipe swing arm fitted ex-factory. Of course a pipe swinger can be fitted later so that on its own is not confirmation as an SXZ.

    However, the frame number GS110X 100780 is 100% confirmation the frame is an SXZ. The job now is to dig deeper and see which of the three markets your Kat was originally sent to. There were only three markets that received the SXZ 1100 Kat:

    Australia

    Sud Effrica

    New Zealand.

    Sadly Australia got the Povo-pack model, W.W. fitted to a stock Kat 1100.

    New Zealand and S.A. received the E27 spec Kat with go-fast bits along with the W.W. The one difference between the Kiwi and Saffer SXZ is the Saffer model was supplied with a chrome-moly round pipe swinger. Your Kat has the correct carbs for E27 spec and if they are the original carbs then it can not be the Australian E24 SXZ. All Australian model Kat 1100 were fitted with an aluminium ARD Plate secured to the steering stem by two brass blind rivets. Your photo shows the foil type I.D. label with frame number, again this is evidence your Kat is not an Australian model Kat. It could be a stock Saffer SXZ that has been modded or a genuine round pipe swinger Saffer SXZ, Mel or one of the S.A. Crew may have info on that possibility?

    The swing arm is very interesting, as I mentioned the pipe swing arm is not confirmation of a South African E27 spec SXZ. I have a pipe swing arm on my E24 SXZ Kat and mine is an Australian SXZ with the Saffer swing arm mod. Could be that a previous owner wanted the better handling with the pipe swinger or they wanted to build a South African tribute E27 SXZ? There are many tribute Kats in places around the world so can't rule that possibility out for now.

    Next step is speaking with Darryl here on the Forum and asking if your Frame number can be checked against the list of 20 Kiwi E27 SXZ.

    Your frame number is from a late 1981 series build. Your fours years ownership and the 14 years of the owner before you leaves 16 years of unknown adventures for your Kat, plenty of time for her to have made a boat trip from one or more countries and finally end up in Australia.

    Looks like the front wheel has been swapped to a 17" from the OEM 19".


    For some info on E27 SXZ click on the following link, includes Darryl (Kiwialfa) providing info on Kiwi E27.

    https://www.suzuki-katana.net/member...ht=sxz+striker

    This is a pic from the post showing a South African SXZ with Chrome-moly swing arm.

    South African Striker SXZ.jpg
    Last edited by Shin-Ken 1074; 02-10-20 at 08:03 AM.
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    Hi Shin-Ken,
    the bike was definitely imported from New Zealand according to the previous owner in Adelaide, unfortunately he did not have any import paperwork and I'm not even sure how the process worked back then.
    I have owned the bike for 4 years, previous owner had the bike for 14 years and he had the new brake lines fitted to front, he also fitted new rear shocks, had the valve guide stem seals changed and had the head and barrel vapour blasted prior to re assembly. He purchased the bike with the rims 18" front and 17" rear rims fitted, he was very fussy and the bike has not been ridden in the rain for the last 18 years.
    I have the original brake lines, original rear shocks and a spare set of front callipers as these came with the bike.

  3. #23
    Thanks for the link Shin-Ken, I can confirm that the bike has a rough "cammy" idle and is a pig under 3000rpm, need to feather the clutch to get it off the line but hit 4000 plus and it pulls like a mule, just really strong torque that doesn,t stop.
    I purchased a new GSXR750 in 1985 and the 1100 has far more torque where as the GSXR relied on revs and light weight.

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    Whatever it turns out to be, one thing for sure is that it is a very sweet Kat.

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    Yeah sure is, looks great and I bet it's lots of fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tye View Post
    Hi Shin-Ken,
    the bike was definitely imported from New Zealand according to the previous owner in Adelaide, unfortunately he did not have any import paperwork and I'm not even sure how the process worked back then.
    I have owned the bike for 4 years, previous owner had the bike for 14 years and he had the new brake lines fitted to front, he also fitted new rear shocks, had the valve guide stem seals changed and had the head and barrel vapour blasted prior to re assembly. He purchased the bike with the rims 18" front and 17" rear rims fitted, he was very fussy and the bike has not been ridden in the rain for the last 18 years.
    I have the original brake lines, original rear shocks and a spare set of front callipers as these came with the bike.
    Hi Tye, the original brake lines, front calipers and shocks are very important parts in regard to E27 SXZ. Could you please post a few pics of each of the original parts and show details of the brake lines and caliper body shape? The wheels are not really an issue, these are swapped and changed for a number of reasons over time, mostly to keep up with tyre technology and size availability. The SXZ 1100 models were originally fitted with 19" front and 18" rear for all three markets. So with 18" front and 17" rear the original SXZ wheels are long gone from your Kat.

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    The thing to remember is that the SXZ was also fitted with GS1100GZ front brakes
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    Quote Originally Posted by melwain View Post
    The thing to remember is that the SXZ was also fitted with GS1100GZ front brakes
    Hi Mel, yes, that is why the pics of the original calipers that came as spares with Tye's Kat will be interesting to see.
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    Hi all, some pics of the spare parts that came with my Katana plus found second hole in air box after changing filter, anyone know if this is factory?.Front RH calliper.jpgOrigonal rear shock Katana.jpgFront brake lines.jpgKatana air box.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tye View Post
    Hi all, some pics of the spare parts that came with my Katana plus found second hole in air box after changing filter, anyone know if this is factory?.Front RH calliper.jpgOrigonal rear shock Katana.jpgFront brake lines.jpgKatana air box.jpg
    Hi Tye, thanks for the pics. That caliper is the GS1100G caliper fitted as OEM to N.Z. E27 SXZ Kats. The brake lines are stock Suzi lines and are not the type fitted to N.Z. E27 SXZ Kats. Shocks are OEM as fitted to all SZ Kats, your shock is missing the preload adjustment handle. Stock SZ 1100 airbox has one inlet with a funnel fitted. It has been reported in the past that an extra inlet was cut into the N.Z. and S.A. SXZ airbox ex-factory, like the one that has been cut into yours.

    So what are we looking at here. The advice from Carl Coleman after checking your frame number against his list of the 20 E27 SXZ he imported from Suzuki and looking at the photos you provided, he has confirmed this is not a Kiwi E27 SXZ. The frame is SXZ, just not a Kiwi E27.

    So for now we know for sure it is not:

    An Australian SXZ Kat that has been modded.

    It is not a Kiwi E27 SXZ.

    At this stage the evidence so far is leaning more in favour of it being a stock N.Z. or South African SXZ frame that has been built as a tribute South African Race SXZ. This is based on some of the parts fitted giving it the Saffer look however, it does not have the 33mm exhaust. It could also be a genuine Saffer SXZ that has had the 33mm exhaust replaced and a 33mm exhaust couldn't be found at the time. My bet would be you have a South Afican SXZ. For now the issue is a 39 year old Kat with no paper trail to confirm what model Kat it was when it left Hamamatsu in 1981. If other evidence is discovered that sheds more light on the Kat that would be great.

    The good news is you have a Kat and as you say it goes pretty hard so that's a winner every time.

    Cheers.
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