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    Help , Wire Wheel Rims

    Hi Guys,

    All the best for the New Year,

    I may have a lead on some wire wheels for a 1982 1100 katana.
    The Question I have is How can I tell they are original.
    Would any one know what the correct sizes were and any markings or branding?
    Apparently these were on a 82 750, Would they be the same size?

    Thanks Pauly

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    Hi Pauly,

    according to the service manual, rims are aluminum alloy and made by Takasago. The front size is 1.85x19 and rear is MT2.50x18. The rims have stamps of TAKASAGO and sizes. The hubs are common with GS750 or 1000. Darryl has also talked about it before.
    I don't know whether wire wheel 750 kats existed or not. Does anyone know about it?
    Cheers, Takahiro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSX1100SXZ.JP View Post
    I don't know whether wire wheel 750 kats existed or not.
    Known as the Blayney (not quite Bathurst) Exceptionals, as well as fencing wire wheels, they featured smooth cams, triple chrome holley mirrors, drain pipe exhausts, and not so knobby tyres.
    Winner of multiple chook raffles their legendary status at the racetrack carpark, was only surpassed by their touring potential, some making it as far as the back paddock...



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    Quote Originally Posted by darkside View Post
    Known as the Blayney (not quite Bathurst) Exceptionals, as well as fencing wire wheels, they featured smooth cams, triple chrome holley mirrors, drain pipe exhausts, and not so knobby tyres.
    Winner of multiple chook raffles their legendary status at the racetrack carpark, was only surpassed by their touring potential, some making it as far as the back paddock...



    Amen brother. Didn't every 1100 come with wire wheels and run at Bathurst?

    PS When are you free to recommence rectifying my electrical maladies?
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    Hi Pauly, the original W.W are the size and manufacturer as stated by Takahiro San. There will also be a month and year stamp after the 'JAPAN" stamp on the rim, eg 2/82. Factory W.W. were only fitted to SXZ 1100 Kats (1981 and 1982) however, W.W. were retro fitted to many machines and having a set on a 7-Fiddy is not unusual, just not original to the 7-Fiddy. As long as the rims are ally and have the correct markings for the SZ period Kat you should be good to go.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin-Ken 1074 View Post
    Hi Pauly, the original W.W are the size and manufacturer as stated by Takahiro San. There will also be a month and year stamp after the 'JAPAN" stamp on the rim, eg 2/82. Factory W.W. were only fitted to SXZ 1100 Kats (1981 and 1982) however, W.W. were retro fitted to many machines and having a set on a 7-Fiddy is not unusual, just not original to the 7-Fiddy. As long as the rims are ally and have the correct markings for the SZ period Kat you should be good to go.

    Cheers
    Thanks for the information.

    The Kat I have is a 5/82 GSX1100SX vin GS110X-101266. I purchased this about 3 years ago but haven't had the money for the restoration.
    From the Vin I believe this is number 266 of the first 500 built to be able to production race the 1100.
    The previous owner had it for 15 years, didn't really look after it and sat for the last 9 of those years under a cover in a shed.
    When I purchased it it had alloy rims and not wires.

    The Question I'm trying to work out is did someone take off the wires and make some money or did the unit come std with alloy rims?
    I'm just wanting to restore it back to original. Which ever way that may be.

    Pauly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauly View Post
    Thanks for the information.

    The Kat I have is a 5/82 GSX1100SX vin GS110X-101266. I purchased this about 3 years ago but haven't had the money for the restoration.
    From the Vin I believe this is number 266 of the first 500 built to be able to production race the 1100.
    The previous owner had it for 15 years, didn't really look after it and sat for the last 9 of those years under a cover in a shed.
    When I purchased it it had alloy rims and not wires.

    The Question I'm trying to work out is did someone take off the wires and make some money or did the unit come std with alloy rims?
    I'm just wanting to restore it back to original. Which ever way that may be.

    Pauly
    Hi Pauly, Glen here, we meet a few years ago just after you bought this Kat. Thanks for providing the V.I.N. however, 101266 isn't 266 of the first 500 Proddie 1100 for racing. 101266 is towards the end of the SXZ W.W. Kats with the first of the Australian delivered SXZ W.W. being built from May 1981 and V.I.N. starting with 100_ _ _.

    To answer your question. Yes, your GS110X 101266 100% would have been delivered with alloy W.W. 19" x 1.85" front and 18" x 2.50" rear. Maybe the W.W. were swapped or sold or stolen? Also W.W. are not as robust as cast wheels and are easily damaged and are expensive to repair or replace. Cast wheels were and still are pretty cheap and so at some stage the original W.W. from your Kat were replaced with cast wheels that will most likely be 19" front and 17" rear.

    Cheers,
    Glen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin-Ken 1074 View Post
    Hi Pauly, Glen here, we meet a few years ago just after you bought this Kat. Thanks for providing the V.I.N. however, 101266 isn't 266 of the first 500 Proddie 1100 for racing. 101266 is towards the end of the SXZ W.W. Kats with the first of the Australian delivered SXZ W.W. being built from May 1981 and V.I.N. starting with 100_ _ _.

    To answer your question. Yes, your GS110X 101266 100% would have been delivered with alloy W.W. 19" x 1.85" front and 18" x 2.50" rear. Maybe the W.W. were swapped or sold or stolen? Also W.W. are not as robust as cast wheels and are easily damaged and are expensive to repair or replace. Cast wheels were and still are pretty cheap and so at some stage the original W.W. from your Kat were replaced with cast wheels that will most likely be 19" front and 17" rear.

    Cheers,
    Glen.
    It is an interesting commentary about the frame numbers of the E24 SXZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin-Ken 1074 View Post
    Hi Pauly, Glen here, we meet a few years ago just after you bought this Kat. Thanks for providing the V.I.N. however, 101266 isn't 266 of the first 500 Proddie 1100 for racing. 101266 is towards the end of the SXZ W.W. Kats with the first of the Australian delivered SXZ W.W. being built from May 1981 and V.I.N. starting with 100_ _ _.

    To answer your question. Yes, your GS110X 101266 100% would have been delivered with alloy W.W. 19" x 1.85" front and 18" x 2.50" rear. Maybe the W.W. were swapped or sold or stolen? Also W.W. are not as robust as cast wheels and are easily damaged and are expensive to repair or replace. Cast wheels were and still are pretty cheap and so at some stage the original W.W. from your Kat were replaced with cast wheels that will most likely be 19" front and 17" rear.

    Cheers,
    Glen.
    Hi Glen Yes I remember, we met in Bris and went for a ride with Pete and Nick on his Bussa when he came up on holidays.

    Thanks for the info on the vin its great to be able to correct information.
    At some point this bike had been dropped by the previous owner when giving a squirt with Paul from Hinterland Motor Cycles who has a Kat 1000 wire. Paul Sold this bike to the Previous owner and gave me the heads up when he was going to sell it.
    It may have been then.

    Pauly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauly View Post
    Hi Glen Yes I remember, we met in Bris and went for a ride with Pete and Nick on his Bussa when he came up on holidays.

    Thanks for the info on the vin its great to be able to correct information.
    At some point this bike had been dropped by the previous owner when giving a squirt with Paul from Hinterland Motor Cycles who has a Kat 1000 wire. Paul Sold this bike to the Previous owner and gave me the heads up when he was going to sell it.
    It may have been then.

    Pauly
    Hi Pauly, glad to help mate. Hmmmm, interesting? The SD 1000 Kat was a cast wheel Kat and not fitted with W.W. ex-factory.

    Cheers.
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