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    Dynojet E3133.001

    Hi,
    I have a GSX1100 SD katana 1983 and
    I have bought a dynojet E3133.001 kit (European version) and in the instructions Fig.A,the stock spacers for the needle are fitted under the under the E clip which is the opposite of the original where the stock plastic spacer is above the E clip and also in the instruction for the American version 3133.001 the stock spacer is above the E clip. Please advice should the stock plastic spacer be under or above the E clip for the E3133 kit? http://www.dynojet.com/pdf/european/E3133.pdf
    Hope you can help.
    Harald from Denmark

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    Senior Member WA patrick's Avatar
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    spacers

    had my carbies, SZ 10/81, apart a couple of week ago and lowered the needles by lifting the clip , in your diagram it looks like there is a spacer both sides of the clip with a washer above the lower spacer ,all I had in my carbs was 1 spacer that went between the spring and under the clip ,Now am I missing some parts ,which would not suprise me ,the last owner should of been called Errol cause they fucked every thing they touched on this thing .

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick View Post
    had my carbies, SZ 10/81, apart a couple of week ago and lowered the needles by lifting the clip , in your diagram it looks like there is a spacer both sides of the clip with a washer above the lower spacer ,all I had in my carbs was 1 spacer that went between the spring and under the clip ,Now am I missing some parts ,which would not suprise me ,the last owner should of been called Errol cause they fucked every thing they touched on this thing .
    In the European version There is the spring, then the original metal spacer, original plastic spacer, e- clip then the dynojet metal spacer which is thicker than the original metal spacer. that is the European version.
    http://www.dynojet.com/pdf/european/E3133.pdf
    The american version is spring, original metal spacer, e clip, original plastic spacer, and then the dynojet metal spacer. http://www.dynojet.com/pdf/3133.pdf.
    The needle in both versions are the same dynojet fuel needle DNT406 and our carbs should also be the same

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    Senior Member QLD darkside's Avatar
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    Harald,
    I honestly dont know the answer to your question...
    But if you brought the european version, and your bike is a european version ,and you live in europe, then why in tarnation wouldnt you use the european instructions?

    or you could try it both ways and use what works best...

    Cheers John
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkside View Post
    Harald,
    I honestly dont know the answer to your question...
    But if you brought the european version, and your bike is a european version ,and you live in europe, then why in tarnation wouldnt you use the european instructions?

    or you could try it both ways and use what works best...

    Cheers John
    I will try both ways, but our carbs are the same and the dynojet needles are the same,
    so why are the spacers position different
    Why should there be a difference between the american and european version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harald View Post
    I will try both ways, but our carbs are the same and the dynojet needles are the same,
    so why are the spacers position different
    Why should there be a difference between the american and european version?
    European, American and Australian emission standards and state of tune were different for each market. This is one reason why for many years Australia, New Zealand and South Africa received bikes with higher H.P. ratings compared to other countries where the bikes were detuned to meet the required restrictions of the various markets. A genuine GSX1100 manual list the various changes for timing and state of tune between different market models. For example the E24 - Australia and E27 - New Zealand GSX1100 SZ engine specs and even the spark plugs are different to the European model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shin-Ken 1074 View Post
    European, American and Australian emission standards and state of tune were different for each market. This is one reason why for many years Australia, New Zealand and South Africa received bikes with higher H.P. ratings compared to other countries where the bikes were detuned to meet the required restrictions of the various markets. A genuine GSX1100 manual list the various changes for timing and state of tune between different market models. For example the E24 - Australia and E27 - New Zealand GSX1100 SZ engine specs and even the spark plugs are different to the European model.
    True, but dynojet has tuned the carbs, regardless of emission standards etc., dynojets needle and jet sizes are the same in each kit regardless of which country, because the carb body is the same and they are looking for max optimal output.
    The carbs I have with European dynojet kit differs only by one metal spacer from the American kit (stage 3) the pipes are aftermarket so no difference there, pods are (K&N), the only difference can be the timing which you write.
    But I should ask Dynojet, to get their answer which I will.

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