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ThomasJ
08-03-15, 08:46 PM
$18000 reserve - Moss vale NSW

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Katana-1981-1100-original-not-restored-/251870947775?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item3aa4ada9bf

Tomcat
08-03-15, 09:05 PM
We're these units all alloy wheel, not the dark grey/alloy I'm used to?
Worried about the comment " stain on fairing from master cylinder" as brake fluid will eat that paint up.

Shin-Ken 1074
08-03-15, 09:46 PM
His I am so cool I "don't need any Katana history lessons" says it all. If the seller knew a bit of Kat history it would have sold the last time is was listed.

Shin-Ken 1074
08-03-15, 09:49 PM
We're these units all alloy wheel, not the dark grey/alloy I'm used to?

Yeah Stuart, all the Kat cast wheels were clear coated polished alloy trim with the coloured wheel. These wheels have been stripped.

ThomasJ
08-03-15, 09:49 PM
His I am so cool I "don't need any Katana history lessons" says it all. If the seller knew a bit of Kat history it would have sold the last time is was listed.

I thought I had seen this one before.

"don't need any Katana history lessons" You never stop learning unless you are dead.

Tomcat
08-03-15, 09:58 PM
For $18,000 asking should invest in some pro photography.
At least it not all the bad out of focus ebay we're used to, but seriously!
if I was selling you could bet the background would green fields, open air and sunshine ( perhaps even a beach in the background ) something to entice buyers, not a drop sheet in the garage.

Shin-Ken 1074
08-03-15, 10:00 PM
If it sold for $18,000 I'd be happy because it would mean my original Kat would be worth $20,000 compared to that one. Probably got told to sell the Kat so has listed it with that over the top price knowing it will never sell and why would you list a Kat for $18,000 and only have three of the ten photos in focus if it was a serious sale?

Tomcat
08-03-15, 10:07 PM
Agreed, either was bought as an investment ( 400+ K's in ten years ) and looking for a return, or the age old "honey, the market is just not buying at the moment" ploy

odin1
08-03-15, 11:15 PM
If it sold for $18,000 I'd be happy because it would mean my original Kat would be worth $20,000 compared to that one. Probably got told to sell the Kat so has listed it with that over the top price knowing it will never sell and why would you list a Kat for $18,000 and only have three of the ten photos in focus if it was a serious sale?

I agree with you Glen. He' probably trying to keep the wife happy by listing the bike for sale. Has no intention to sell unless he gets stupid money for it. Brilliant. :geek:

ThomasJ
09-03-15, 09:12 AM
I agree with you Glen. He' probably trying to keep the wife happy by listing the bike for sale. Has no intention to sell unless he gets stupid money for it. Brilliant. :geek:

there is another on the market probably for the same reason:

$17500.00

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/merriwa/motorcycles/suzuki-katana-1100-1981/1066197618

Shin-Ken 1074
09-03-15, 09:25 AM
Hhmmmmmmm, if these sell then maybe they are the smartest blokes in the room.

odin1
09-03-15, 10:30 AM
Hhmmmmmmm, if these sell then maybe they are the smartest blokes in the room.

Makes having a couple in the shed worth it. Eh Frankie. ;)

gtboy
09-03-15, 11:21 AM
Yeah Stuart, all the Kat cast wheels were clear coated polished alloy trim with the coloured wheel. These wheels have been stripped.

Hmm...


I thought the early 1100s had un-coated alloy wheels with no clear or colour on the spokes at all, while the 750s had a gray colour on the spokes with the edges machined for contrast and the rims un-painted and possibly clear coated?

The alloy wheels that came on my Kat have no paint or clear coating on them whatsoever, and as far as I can tell they haven't been stripped or otherwise molested:

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Every other original early 1100 that I've ever seen has had un-coated/painted alloy wheels :confused: .

Shin-Ken 1074
09-03-15, 01:10 PM
Thanks for the info on your cast wheels Paul. Looks like there was two types of finish for the cast wheels. My Aug 1981 cast wheel 1100 Kat bought new came with the Grey tone and Alloy machined finish cast wheels. Another Suzuki mystery?

Cheers.

Rusty82
09-03-15, 02:24 PM
That is bizarre Glen - though they was just the 750's wheels that had the grey painted spokes??

Shin-Ken 1074
09-03-15, 02:40 PM
Yeah, very odd that one Rusty.

Rusty82
09-03-15, 02:41 PM
Maybe they just 'ran-out' of 1100 cast rims and stuck a 750 set on yours!!!

Shin-Ken 1074
09-03-15, 03:14 PM
Beauty, if I still owned it I could list it uber rare wheeled Kat.

Tomcat
09-03-15, 05:40 PM
there is another on the market probably for the same reason:

$17500.00

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/merriwa/motorcycles/suzuki-katana-1100-1981/1066197618

All original, except the new seat, new master cylinder ( which don't look new but might be old photo ).
Interesting, the dark grew colouring on the front wheel looks like my 750's did, right before I msitakenly thought it was anodised and put paint stripper on to remove paint splatter. Ended up having to go all the way and repainted them!

revolution
10-03-15, 03:14 AM
I am not a expert

1. front wheel
2. chrome on air filter covers
3. needles on instrumetns
4. tank cap (I have few better then that)
4. no trim at winshield

My restored kat will look better than that.....and shark fins.....again

pkay
10-03-15, 02:14 PM
Come on we want these to sell for the asking price boys - stop talking the market down!!!

Shin-Ken 1074
10-03-15, 02:42 PM
And lower the price on the Eurotrash and Hoondahs too.

83KAT
10-03-15, 03:11 PM
...Not everybody wants to sell, Paul....I'd like them to stay relatively affordable so we all can still play,....but I want world peace too....

Rusty82
10-03-15, 05:12 PM
Yeh - Im here for the bike - not the value. I inherited mine (in pieces albeit..) and I will never be letting her go. Would love to buy a friend for her though (so they can breed and make 250s) but if they ask this much I will never be able to afford another..

Shin-Ken 1074
10-03-15, 06:09 PM
Keep looking Rusty, there are still Kats out there to be found and not all sellers are hungry. The bloke in North Richmond NSW who sold his very tidy 95% original 1100 Kat two weeks ago was asking for anything over $5,000 - pretty fair reserve I thought.

Rusty82
10-03-15, 07:25 PM
Ha - mate I wont be buying anytime soon mate.... Just bought a boat. the other hole that ya throw endless wallets into... mind you the fishin's been good
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And there you have it - weve had cooking lessons, girly pictures, Eurotrash, Hoondahs, etc etc - not sure about a fishin pic yet?

83KAT
10-03-15, 07:43 PM
....BOAT....Bring Out Another Thousand.....The two best days of owning a boat....the day you buy it ...and...the day you sell it...enjoy the fish...

Shin-Ken 1074
10-03-15, 07:45 PM
Seafood BBQ at Rusty's place folks!

douges
10-03-15, 08:36 PM
....BOAT....Bring Out Another Thousand.....The two best days of owning a boat....the day you buy it ...and...the day you sell it...enjoy the fish...

That's a bit rough 83Kat; my boat doesn't live in-doors like my Kat does.

Tomcat
10-03-15, 08:56 PM
Come on we want these to sell for the asking price boys - stop talking the market down!!!

I'm with Rusty on this one. Yes, it's great to think there is a lot of value in our rides, but consider this.
Higher prices mean higher insurance due to replacement cost!
Replacements rides in the future will be twice the price for half as good!
Insurance companies are in it for themselves and shareholders, not for us!
We'll all have to increase our security and hire a security guard every time we go for a Sunday coffee for fear of people breathing on it. ( which I already do - the worrying, not the guard ).

However saying that I also thing the market will determine the value based on supply and demand.

ThomasJ
11-03-15, 10:02 AM
I'm with Rusty on this one. Yes, it's great to think there is a lot of value in our rides, but consider this.
Higher prices mean higher insurance due to replacement cost!
Replacements rides in the future will be twice the price for half as good!
Insurance companies are in it for themselves and shareholders, not for us!
We'll all have to increase our security and hire a security guard every time we go for a Sunday coffee for fear of people breathing on it. ( which I already do - the worrying, not the guard ).

However saying that I also thing the market will determine the value based on supply and demand.


You have hit the nail squarely on the preverbal head "the market will determine the value based on supply and demand

That is exactly what will determine the prices. The price of parts are next to really start increasing. Look at anything for GS1000S. A ignition switch cover sold on Monday for around A$200 and the chrome tail trim A$300 (and not purchased by me, as much as I wanted them)

minus45
11-03-15, 11:48 AM
what's wrong with the "shark fins" in the photo ???, am I missing something or am I just to much of a noob ??

pkay
11-03-15, 02:59 PM
You insure it for an agreed value - market value doesn't drive that, you do.

ThomasJ
11-03-15, 03:41 PM
You insure it for an agreed value - market value doesn't drive that, you do.

That is a really good point. With the age the condition / values vary so much.

Gammaboy
11-03-15, 04:55 PM
what's wrong with the "shark fins" in the photo ???, am I missing something or am I just to much of a noob ??

The shark fins on the Gumtree bike have been fitted to the wrong sides - they're angled in at the bottom instead of out.

minus45
11-03-15, 05:57 PM
ah, forgot about the tilt, i thought someone thought they were on backwards